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Old 12-10-2012, 09:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I found a sled I am interested in. 2010 Polaris Dragon 800. My former neighbor who now owns a Polaris dealership has this unit for sale. Is this a good sled? More track than what I need 163" as I never go to the mountains but looks good and he is asking $7200 for it which I could probably negotiate lower. Do these have the same top end issues that the 08 and 09 RMK's?
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Lots of info in this forum on these sleds and engine. Just browse over the 1st few pages and read away. Must do mods are: Power Commander and Cooler Mod.
163 is a damn big track so if you are not going to the mountains maybe look for a 121 or SB 136 for trail riding.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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So your saying that they had the same issues as the 800 RMK and if they have not had "The Fix" then stay away unless you have a power commander and the cooler mod?
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You can run just Wiseco's... The only thing with the fix kit is there's a spacer provided. Sleds are running fine without it. Like any used sled you are taking a risk. Check compression and sled history and go from there. If I was buying a used sled I would pull it apart anyways and see what the top end looks like.
So if you buy it, and rip it apart, add the Wiseco's and PC and cooler mod.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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So your saying that they had the same issues as the 800 RMK and if they have not had "The Fix" then stay away unless you have a power commander and the cooler mod?
The 800 dragon is the same sled as a 800 RMK. They do have a totaly different cooling system setup from the 121/136 sleds and depending on where you ride you may not need any cooling system mods. Honestly most of these sleds need top end rebuilds. They usually have OK compression, but badly scuffed pistons. You should read up about the issues with the 800cfi motor in this forum, and then ask questions. Needless to say say there are a bunch of little things that need to be done, and checked for this sled to be reliable. But yes a Power Commander, and a decent set of pistons is the first step.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Is this a new non current or is it used?

If it's used how many miles?

Price is pretty steep for a used sled unless it's crazy low miles/tons of upgrades??

As mentioned the cooling system is different on the rMK from the 121 and 136 sleds. No probs there unless you ride hard trails or hardpack which I assume yer not buying a 163??
Regardless it'll need scratchers to survive any trail use.

The 2010 mtors are updated from 09 with"better" pistons and top ends and fuel mapping.
That said they still require a fuel controller to run properly and live a healthy life.
The piston design and clearance is still poor and while it'll run fine for the first 1000 miles or so the pistons develop sloppy clearance and poor ring seal quickly. Easily remedied by aftermarket piston/rings.

Good sled but compared to the Pro RMK it would need to be a better deal $$ wise than what you are saying to offset both the improvements of the ProRNK design and the required "fixes" that the 2010 requires either right out of the gate or soon after.

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Sled has 1500 miles on it. We are not mountain riders, hence my other post about a 163" being too long for a flatlander in the general area. I think I am going to pass on this sled.
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Sled has 1500 miles on it. We are not mountain riders, hence my other post about a 163" being too long for a flatlander in the general area. I think I am going to pass on this sled.
my .02 your making the right decision, the 163 is a MONSTER sled for flatriding, it'll push like a dozer through the turns on a trail...its meant to be a mountain sled...my 144 backup sled is in my opinion to long for trail use with decent snow conditions...keep looking, what you seek will show up for sale before you know it. again, my opinion here but for a 2010 800 in any length i'd think a solid price point wouldnt be a dime over 6k. unless in MINT shape then i'd pay $6001. i got my d8 last year in mint shape with 1500 miles and a perfect vin report, ya its only a 121 but i paid $5100.


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Old 12-11-2012, 10:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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That is the sled that i have.. i did a ton of research.. the 2010 have no motor problems.. how ever the voltage regulators do need to be upgraded.. as they do fail " mine failed during break in". I killed my hyfax in one season.. i rarely ride trail except when i have to to access deep snow.. a 163 as a trail sled is a really really bad idea... how ever the cross over sleds are actually good mix sled and you can find them fairly priced.. my gf's current sled is a 07 m7 153.. and i am look at getting her a switchback.., or for my self when there is no powder . .. my buddy's 141 track does great in up to 3.5 feet of powder. I love my dragon.. but i really only ride it in deep snow.. " digging that thing out of 4.5 feet of wet powder 3 weekends ago how ever was not funn!!" .. " If you get the chance to ride.. ride it for 5 mins on the trail" DROP THE ICE SCRATCHERS.. or u will melt the hyfax" Then ride something like a 120-144 .. the 163 will beat you to death and just isn't comfy on the trail.. because it's polaris's full mountain sled.. not made at ail for trails..

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Old 12-11-2012, 10:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
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