Group wants ban on studded snowmobiles in MICHIGAN - Page 2

rlh6805 · 07-22-2011, 06:16 PM

I have to agree that allowing sleds on a paved surface is a dumb idea. Road crossings are one thing but riding miles upon miles on a paved surface, regardless of snow cover, is going to ruin it (especially with studs). I suspect that the White Pine trail is not typical of trail systems that allow snowmobiles. It probably wasn't too smart in the first place to pave it.

cire · 07-22-2011, 06:38 PM

Those bikes and roller bladers will make them really good money over the summer ~ NOT!

dodger · 07-22-2011, 07:28 PM

I'm sure the business's are looking for the best of both worlds. food, pop, and beers to the sledders in the winter and pop,water, and power bars in the summer. If the people stop using the trail in the winter due to the pavement, they will see the light. I have not been on the Pier Marquette trail since they started the paving. I used to ride it 3-4 times a year and hang out a bunch at Big Al's in Lake.

1ProR8 · 07-23-2011, 05:53 AM

Let me say the damage to the paved trail is real bad I mean really bad. I run studs on my sled. We are going to lose the right to ride on the paved trail unless we can find a way not to tear it up. There is a snow minimum depth on the trail that no one seems to be paying any attention to. We need idea's and fast they are working now to ban us from all paved Michigan trails. And in almost any town along the trails the people in those towns want there trails paved because of the people it brings to there business. We have all heard many times before how a few will wreck it for the rest of us. You better visit the web site friends of the white pine trail and add some ideas.

1ProR8 · 07-23-2011, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cire

Those bikes and roller bladers will make them really good money over the summer ~ NOT!

If you take the time to ask business owner along the trail, they will tell you that they are busier in the non-winter months and make alot more money.
Not the gas stations.But the stores and restaurants. The restaurant in Big Rapids said it's 100 to 1 for summer.
There are many people working to ban studded snowmobile from all paved trails in Michigan and the snowmobiler are just bitching about it and not doing anything to try to stop this. I seem to be alone fighting this.
If you only get one point from this. EVERY town that has a trail threw it wants it paved.

Rob_0t · 07-23-2011, 10:08 AM

is there nothing to be said for those riding in the low / no snow conditions ?

oldindy · 07-23-2011, 10:32 AM

Ive never heard of " stud proof" asphalt, how is that done?

C-notesnopro · 07-23-2011, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1ProR8

If you take the time to ask business owner along the trail, they will tell you that they are busier in the non-winter months and make alot more money.
Not the gas stations.But the stores and restaurants. The restaurant in Big Rapids said it's 100 to 1 for summer.
There are many people working to ban studded snowmobile from all paved trails in Michigan and the snowmobiler are just bitching about it and not doing anything to try to stop this. I seem to be alone fighting this.
If you only get one point from this. EVERY town that has a trail threw it wants it paved.

You talking all Mi. towns?,, I find this very hard to believe,, especially a few towns in the U.P.

rlh6805 · 07-23-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by C-notesnopro

You talking all Mi. towns?,, I find this very hard to believe,, especially a few towns in the U.P.

Yea, me too. I don't think the towns around here are asking for any of the sled trails to be paved. That's more of a SW lower thing (i.e. White Pine). In fact allot of the counties up here are trying to open up all the trails for ORV use in the summer too!!

hossz28 · 07-23-2011, 11:24 AM

Once they ban studs what will they do about carbide runners with studs the rider controlks the track spin carbides are digging in all the time!

07-22-2011, 06:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
rlh6805 Super Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,072 Current Sled(s): 2013 F1100 Sno Pro Limited Previous Sled(s): 10 Z1 Turbo; 06 F5; 02 4 Stroke Location: Gaylord, MI Favorite Riding Area: Northern MI 12-13 Mileage: 1020 11-12 Mileage: 950 10-11 Mileage: 1050 Age: 47 Riding Since: 1990	I have to agree that allowing sleds on a paved surface is a dumb idea. Road crossings are one thing but riding miles upon miles on a paved surface, regardless of snow cover, is going to ruin it (especially with studs). I suspect that the White Pine trail is not typical of trail systems that allow snowmobiles. It probably wasn't too smart in the first place to pave it. __________________ Rob

07-22-2011, 07:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
dodger Super Advanced Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,641 Current Sled(s): 2008 IQr and IQrr 03 pro-x Previous Sled(s): still have 98xc7 220 motor Location: Central Lower Mi. Favorite Riding Area: Mancelona "Bin" Oleo Acres 12-13 Mileage: 800 11-12 Mileage: need snow 10-11 Mileage: no speedo Riding Since: 1985	I'm sure the business's are looking for the best of both worlds. food, pop, and beers to the sledders in the winter and pop,water, and power bars in the summer. If the people stop using the trail in the winter due to the pavement, they will see the light. I have not been on the Pier Marquette trail since they started the paving. I used to ride it 3-4 times a year and hang out a bunch at Big Al's in Lake. __________________ I've never had a 10,,,,But I've had 5 twos Well I'm no Gynecologist.....But I'll take a look

07-23-2011, 05:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
1ProR8 Super Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 882 Current Sled(s): 2011 Pro R 800 Previous Sled(s): XC800,700 Dragon Location: MI Favorite Riding Area: Maple City and U.P 12-13 Mileage: 1355 11-12 Mileage: 1870 10-11 Mileage: 3645 Age: 58 Riding Since: 1968	Let me say the damage to the paved trail is real bad I mean really bad. I run studs on my sled. We are going to lose the right to ride on the paved trail unless we can find a way not to tear it up. There is a snow minimum depth on the trail that no one seems to be paying any attention to. We need idea's and fast they are working now to ban us from all paved Michigan trails. And in almost any town along the trails the people in those towns want there trails paved because of the people it brings to there business. We have all heard many times before how a few will wreck it for the rest of us. You better visit the web site friends of the white pine trail and add some ideas. __________________ My way OUT

07-23-2011, 10:08 AM	#16 (permalink)
Rob_0t is wielding a Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 8,061 Current Sled(s): 91 w/c 700 / 98 t-cat 1k Location: brighton michigan Favorite Riding Area: lol every flake possible Age: 35 Riding Since: 2007	is there nothing to be said for those riding in the low / no snow conditions ? __________________ Kill3rBaconRacing Hangin skis and dodgin trees.... braap brap braaaaaaap.... its the sledders life for me.

07-22-2011, 06:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
cire Super Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,162 Current Sled(s): 10 Nytro XTX 06 Crossfire 7 Previous Sled(s): 07 Attak Location: South Lyon MI Favorite Riding Area: northern lower 10-11 Mileage: 1500 Riding Since: 1969 Blog Entries: 2	Those bikes and roller bladers will make them really good money over the summer ~ NOT!

07-23-2011, 10:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
oldindy Super Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,527 12-13 Mileage: 2263 11-12 Mileage: not enough	Ive never heard of " stud proof" asphalt, how is that done?

07-23-2011, 11:24 AM	#20 (permalink)
hossz28 Super Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 206 Current Sled(s): 2008 AC F 1000 SnoPro Previous Sled(s): 06 Nytro,96 Xlt sp,77El Tigre,69 Scorpion stinger 634 Location: Ontario Canada Favorite Riding Area: Southern Ontario 10-11 Mileage: 1800 Age: 42 Riding Since: 1980	Once they ban studs what will they do about carbide runners with studs the rider controlks the track spin carbides are digging in all the time!

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