Sutherlands Lake ICE DRAG RACES - Saturday Feb. 9th/2013 - Page 2

xc eliminator · 02-01-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by #12.

I agree that scorpions are a race stud .....but hornets..???? really,
been running them on the trail for years..... they hold up awesome..
I guess triggers will not be allowed either then..??

If you look at woodys site they call triggers a competition stud, but here is what roetin says about there studs (Our Hornet carbide trail studs are second to none.) but at the end of the day its the race organizing commitee thats make the call and keeps it fair for everyone,they do a great job every year

xxx4play · 02-01-2013, 02:59 PM

From the website about Hornets
"These are the most advanced studs on the market. There is no other stud to match them:
They have a rimless tip to reduce float and improve penetration
They have a thinner barrel to reduce weight and improve penetration
They have a larger, thinner head to make flush installation easier
70 degree point provides plenty of bite for control"

Woody and Stud boy trail studs are 60 degree and none of them compare to the 70 degree Hornets its such a difference when on hard ice with two exact same machines and setup you would swear one had chisels!

My 3 cents a trail stud is 60 degree

FasTOrangE · 02-01-2013, 04:16 PM

I've used Gold diggers and Hornets at Sutherlands and too be honest the Gold diggers were better once the Ice got spun up,And very little difference on good ice.Its the stud penetration/ track Lug height that counts with Trail studs on Glare ice.

dl-hewitt · 02-01-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by peternelson

We always tried to have a fun race for the kids. This would be a race before the regular classes. Insurance is an issue for spectators , not competitors. If a competitor is injured that is their option. Insurance at all venues is only for injury to spectators. We would gladly entertain a kids race before hand as we have done in the past. AGAIN it's for the fun of the kids. They will all receive a trophy and there really is no place for competition.

Nice! I personally feel the kids need to be involved in some way...great for our sport and its RE. GROWTH

highlander · 02-02-2013, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #12.

I agree that scorpions are a race stud .....but hornets..???? really,
been running them on the trail for years..... they hold up awesome..
I guess triggers will not be allowed either then..??

X2.

HOTROD93 · 02-02-2013, 09:46 AM

Sorry to hear about the Lunenburg race being cancelled but maybe that will open up a couple of you vintage guys to Sutherlands and maybe we can all get to a rescheduled race down @ Wayne's,any of you vintage guys from the Island and Nova Scotia coming to Sutherland's?

Thanks Todd

peternelson · 02-04-2013, 07:23 AM

have some spare time.like fresh air and getting outdoors ? We will be starting setup for the drags on thursday and friday on the ice.lunch------moose stew and fixins in wyllies garage on friday. All welcome--you can call or just show up 1-902-483-5887

OLDIE 55 · 02-04-2013, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxx4play

From the website about Hornets
"These are the most advanced studs on the market. There is no other stud to match them:
They have a rimless tip to reduce float and improve penetration
They have a thinner barrel to reduce weight and improve penetration
They have a larger, thinner head to make flush installation easier
70 degree point provides plenty of bite for control"

Woody and Stud boy trail studs are 60 degree and none of them compare to the 70 degree Hornets its such a difference when on hard ice with two exact same machines and setup you would swear one had chisels!

My 3 cents a trail stud is 60 degree

On stud point the smaller the number the sharper the stud. ( ie. 45 degree being sharpest, 60 degree next, 70 degree next and 80 degree being the most blunt with good wear but less hook up. Think of a 90 degree angle and go down from there. So the 70 degree tip is not as sharp as a 60 degree tip. Same goes for ski carbides ,the 60 degree are sharper than 90 degree.

xxx4play · 02-04-2013, 09:29 AM

What I was getting at is the 70 degree hornets are rimless most trail studs are not

Bad Ash Racing · 02-04-2013, 10:24 AM

FYI is anyone doesn't know what they are talking about with the difference in the studs...

Woodys Gold Diggers ( obviously the gold colored stud) have a 60 deg head as compared to the Roetin Hornet with a 70 deg head.
You can see on the top of the stud just below where the carbide tip is attached the angle of the stud. The Roetin has a rimless tip and also has such a long shank that the penetration is close to twice what the gold digger is.
Holy crap Im bored....
lol

02-01-2013, 02:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
xxx4play Super Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 527 Location: Westchester NS Favorite Riding Area: Lakes Riding Since: 1976	From the website about Hornets "These are the most advanced studs on the market. There is no other stud to match them: They have a rimless tip to reduce float and improve penetration They have a thinner barrel to reduce weight and improve penetration They have a larger, thinner head to make flush installation easier 70 degree point provides plenty of bite for control" Woody and Stud boy trail studs are 60 degree and none of them compare to the 70 degree Hornets its such a difference when on hard ice with two exact same machines and setup you would swear one had chisels! My 3 cents a trail stud is 60 degree __________________ 2007 MXZ X-RS

02-01-2013, 04:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
FasTOrangE Super Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,566 Current Sled(s): sledless Previous Sled(s): ZR900/F6EB/F7SP/Nytro RTX Location: Nova Scotia Favorite Riding Area: Drag Strip 11-12 Mileage: ZeRo 10-11 Mileage: 580km's Age: 34 Riding Since: 1982	I've used Gold diggers and Hornets at Sutherlands and too be honest the Gold diggers were better once the Ice got spun up,And very little difference on good ice.Its the stud penetration/ track Lug height that counts with Trail studs on Glare ice. __________________ 1980 340 Spitfire / 1978 340Super Sonic 1981 5500 Blizzard / 1991 Mach 1 Plus 1994 XLT 600SP / 2000 ZRT600 2003 ZR 900 / 2004 F6EB 2005 F7SP / 2001 SRX 700 2008 Nytro RTX

02-04-2013, 09:29 AM	#19 (permalink)
xxx4play Super Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 527 Location: Westchester NS Favorite Riding Area: Lakes Riding Since: 1976	What I was getting at is the 70 degree hornets are rimless most trail studs are not __________________ 2007 MXZ X-RS

02-02-2013, 09:46 AM	#16 (permalink)
HOTROD93 Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 85 Current Sled(s): 12 Switchback Retro, 78 440 RXL,84 INDY 600 Previous Sled(s): 2008 FX Nytro,77 SRX'S,75 TJET Location: New Brunswick Favorite Riding Area: New Brunswick,Nova Scotia 12-13 Mileage: 200 SO FAR 11-12 Mileage: 660' 10-11 Mileage: 660' Age: 44 Riding Since: 1977	Sorry to hear about the Lunenburg race being cancelled but maybe that will open up a couple of you vintage guys to Sutherlands and maybe we can all get to a rescheduled race down @ Wayne's,any of you vintage guys from the Island and Nova Scotia coming to Sutherland's? Thanks Todd

02-04-2013, 07:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
peternelson Super Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 229 Location: sutherlands lake Favorite Riding Area: Sutherlands Lake. Nfld Riding Since: 1968	have some spare time.like fresh air and getting outdoors ? We will be starting setup for the drags on thursday and friday on the ice.lunch------moose stew and fixins in wyllies garage on friday. All welcome--you can call or just show up 1-902-483-5887

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