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Old 02-23-2012, 10:00 AM   #31 (permalink)
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It should be twice that much
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:20 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Failing to display or carry trail permit while operating off-highway vehicle on designated trail
first offence $399.91
second offence $687.41
third or subsequent offence $974.71
Maybe we should think about posting a few signs with this information at various points along the trails.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:52 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Same old song...Those that have their passes....great, and thanks. No sense bashing the ones that don't....that isn't the answer. What happens when you get ordered around or shit on a bit? Not a good feeling...and definitely makes one defensive. As it was mentioned..those that don't buy trail passes.....aren't going to buy them....and WE are not going to make them, that's for FRIGGEN sure! Many have no insurance or license on their vehicles let alone sleds. My responsibility is to buy a pass and enjoy sledding. The approach that those who don't have passes are A$$holes is surely not the path to take for support and hope that they will become Pass buyers and club members.....a little bit of PR goes a long ways...For those that (truly) only get out once or twice....a day pass or weekend pass should be fine as long as their is a spot that is easy accessible to purchase them. I also believe, One pass per sled....and a sticker is not the answer. It needs to be something transferrable from sled to sled...for those that have access to more than one sled. Key tags would be much more user friendly. As long as the sled on the trail has a valid pass...that should be good enough. Enough said...let me duck now and get my suit of armour on.....Lrol

P.S...Those ridiculous fines for riding a sled in the woods without a pass really need to stop.....we are suppose to encourage the sport, not discourage it....
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Same old song...Those that have their passes....great, and thanks. No sense bashing the ones that don't....that isn't the answer. What happens when you get ordered around or shit on a bit? Not a good feeling...and definitely makes one defensive. As it was mentioned..those that don't buy trail passes.....aren't going to buy them....and WE are not going to make them, that's for FRIGGEN sure! Many have no insurance or license on their vehicles let alone sleds. My responsibility is to buy a pass and enjoy sledding. The approach that those who don't have passes are A$$holes is surely not the path to take for support and hope that they will become Pass buyers and club members.....a little bit of PR goes a long ways...For those that (truly) only get out once or twice....a day pass or weekend pass should be fine as long as their is a spot that is easy accessible to purchase them. I also believe, One pass per sled....and a sticker is not the answer. It needs to be something transferrable from sled to sled...for those that have access to more than one sled. Key tags would be much more user friendly. As long as the sled on the trail has a valid pass...that should be good enough. Enough said...let me duck now and get my suit of armour on.....Lrol

P.S...Those ridiculous fines for riding a sled in the woods without a pass really need to stop.....we are suppose to encourage the sport, not discourage it....
Well said !!!! you catch more fly's with honey...
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:20 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Same old song...Those that have their passes....great, and thanks. No sense bashing the ones that don't....that isn't the answer. What happens when you get ordered around or shit on a bit? Not a good feeling...and definitely makes one defensive. As it was mentioned..those that don't buy trail passes.....aren't going to buy them....and WE are not going to make them, that's for FRIGGEN sure! Many have no insurance or license on their vehicles let alone sleds. My responsibility is to buy a pass and enjoy sledding. The approach that those who don't have passes are A$$holes is surely not the path to take for support and hope that they will become Pass buyers and club members.....a little bit of PR goes a long ways...For those that (truly) only get out once or twice....a day pass or weekend pass should be fine as long as their is a spot that is easy accessible to purchase them. I also believe, One pass per sled....and a sticker is not the answer. It needs to be something transferrable from sled to sled...for those that have access to more than one sled. Key tags would be much more user friendly. As long as the sled on the trail has a valid pass...that should be good enough. Enough said...let me duck now and get my suit of armour on.....Lrol

P.S...Those ridiculous fines for riding a sled in the woods without a pass really need to stop.....we are suppose to encourage the sport, not discourage it....
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. I also believe, One pass per sled....and a sticker is not the answer. It needs to be something transferrable from sled to sled...for those that have access to more than one sled. Key tags would be much more user friendly. As long as the sled on the trail has a valid pass...that should be good enough.
Craig, I totally agree with you. Did you pick up on the actual wording of the fine, it says "failing to display or carry". Those words are key, if I had 3 or 4 sleds and only used one at a time you can bet your last dollar that I would be keeping my pass in my pocket (carrying it) and from then on I'd be fighting it in court if I got a fine. The pass belongs to the person and not the machine, people get fines not machines.
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Well said Graig but yes a but transferring between sleds only works if you have the paper work to go with it or you know what will happen. 10 sleds running on one pass. You are also right about the fines I wish they could stop,but we live in a world where if you don't have consequences for your actions then it wouldn't safe to walk down the street. What stops me from going MPH on the highway (all the time) loss of license. So nice idea but But But.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:32 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Sure,we should just let everybody enjoy the nicely groomed trails until they feel they're ready to contribute.
Why make them feel like lazy cheapskates?Thats just rude.
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Maybe we should pay their fines with the surplus of money that the clubs have to ease their burdens
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As long as you have your own Trail pass Why worry about everyone who doesn't? I dont think anyone is gonna scare people into buying a pass by shitting on them,Let the people who are getting paid to patrol the trails enforce the rules(DNR) and then you can bitch and whine about them Stopping you asking for paperwork all the time, Clubs need the money but they should find out what Sledder's want,From what im reading the system they have in place isn't working all that well.With a winter like we are having a monthly pass probley would have been a good idea.
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