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Old 02-15-2012, 05:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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By CBC News, cbc.ca, Updated: February-15-12 3:14 PMOff-road vehicle ban in Winnipeg gets support






It looks like snowmobilers and ATVers Winnipeg will have to find new places to ride later this year.
The executive policy committee, also known as the mayor's cabinet, voted Wednesday to ban off-road vehicles within city limits as of Nov. 1.
That's almost two years earlier than first proposed.
However, the EPC vote is only a recommendation to council, which has the final say at its monthly meeting next week.
The ban does have widespread support among councillors, though.
Some have been calling for it since January 2011, when a 51-year-old man was struck by a snowmobile and killed behind his Transcona-area house in the 100 block of Millwood Meadow.
The ban, which would govern the use of snowmobiles, ATVs, dirt bikes and any other off-road vehicles, is expected to pass.

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Old 02-15-2012, 05:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Within city limits" - this means if you live in the Gunn Rd/Springfield Rd area you should be legal to ride, or any other area within the perimeter that is RM juristiction and not city.

Secondly, this still won't stop a lot of people. How many people still text/talk and drive? No seatbelt? Speed? You can make a law but you can't force people to follow it, you can only hope to catch them in the act and enforce the consequences. Won't change much IMO.
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It's okay. I hope everyone remembers that when the next major blizzard happens and they need the help of recreational snowmobilers. Oh but wait, most snowmobilers I know will be there to help anyway....that's the difference between us and them.
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Texting and talking on the phone while driving your vehicle don't leave tracks in the snow though
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It's okay. I hope everyone remembers that when the next major blizzard happens and they need the help of recreational snowmobilers. Oh but wait, most snowmobilers I know will be there to help anyway....that's the difference between us and them.
If it happens I'll be helping them out... at 80 mph down Main St.!
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Texting and talking on the phone while driving your vehicle don't leave tracks in the snow though
If you go through pricate property and obtain written permission there's nothing they can do. I can drive my sled up and down my 72 ft driveway all I want since it's my property. If my neighbor decides it's OK for me to ride on his lawn I can ride from across mine to his and back and it's still OK. So if you get the permission of everyone right to the limit line, you can legally do it.
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from the sun..........


Mayor Sam Katz's Executive Policy Committee has voted to ban off-road vehicles from riding on public land within city limits by Nov. 1, 2012.
But EPC's unanimous endorsement comes as Coun. Brian Mayes (St. Vital) voiced concerns the ban remains an "issue of great concern" for off-road enthusiasts living in the southernmost areas of his ward.
Mayes told EPC Wednesday said while the majority of St. Vital residents within the perimeter are in support of the ban, it's a vastly different story beyond it, where he's heard "mostly opposition."
He asked some solution be found allowing people in the area a way to access legal provincial trails and off-road areas.
"(One) issue will be getting to the Floodway - I would like to see some provision that will continue to allow that," he said.
Mayes' comments come as administrators tackle a concurrent request the city look at developing three staging areas (essentially park and ride zones) and possible trail extensions with legal Snoman Manitoba paths outside the city.
A report is due back on this in September, said Coun. Paula Havixbeck (Charleswood-Tuxedo).
The incoming ban does not apply to private property.
A lower committee had voted to delay implementing the ban until 2014 to allow for talks to take place between the city and snowmobilers to find possible accommodations for them.
But EPC voted to amend the start date to later this year.
A public awareness campaign will be held to notify people of the ban and the possibility of $448.50 fines if caught breaking it.
A majority of council must still vote on the ban at a meeting next week.
Coun. Ross Eadie, who is not on EPC, spoke at the meeting and asked the restrictions take effect immediately.
"I think we should just get it done," he said, citing safety concerns. "Just like driving, we have people that ride snowmobiles and they're dangerous," said Eadie.
He added the concept of building staging areas doesn't make sense as people would still have t
Mayor Sam Katz's Executive Policy Committee has voted to ban off-road vehicles from riding on public land within city limits by Nov. 1, 2012.
But EPC's unanimous endorsement comes as Coun. Brian Mayes (St. Vital) voiced concerns the ban remains an "issue of great concern" for off-road enthusiasts living in the southernmost areas of his ward.
Mayes told EPC Wednesday said while the majority of St. Vital residents within the perimeter are in support of the ban, it's a vastly different story beyond it, where he's heard "mostly opposition."
He asked some solution be found allowing people in the area a way to access legal provincial trails and off-road areas.
"(One) issue will be getting to the Floodway - I would like to see some provision that will continue to allow that," he said.
Mayes' comments come as administrators tackle a concurrent request the city look at developing three staging areas (essentially park and ride zones) and possible trail extensions with legal Snoman Manitoba paths outside the city.
A report is due back on this in September, said Coun. Paula Havixbeck (Charleswood-Tuxedo).
The incoming ban does not apply to private property.
A lower committee had voted to delay implementing the ban until 2014 to allow for talks to take place between the city and snowmobilers to find possible accommodations for them.
But EPC voted to amend the start date to later this year.
A public awareness campaign will be held to notify people of the ban and the possibility of $448.50 fines if caught breaking it.
A majority of council must still vote on the ban at a meeting next week.
Coun. Ross Eadie, who is not on EPC, spoke at the meeting and asked the restrictions take effect immediately.
"I think we should just get it done," he said, citing safety concerns. "Just like driving, we have people that ride snowmobiles and they're dangerous," said Eadie.
He added the concept of building staging areas doesn't make sense as people would still have to put their machines on trailers to get there. "If you have to trailer it to get to a staging area, then trailer it outside the city," Eadie said.
He also took issue with the thought of spending money to accommodate city-dwelling off-roaders.
"I note that this city — we can't even fix our own roads," he said. "I don't think that the city's going to be spending money on staging areas and trails," Eadie said.

o put their machines on trailers to get there. "If you have to trailer it to get to a staging area, then trailer it outside the city," Eadie said.
He also took issue with the thought of spending money to accommodate city-dwelling off-roaders.
"I note that this city — we can't even fix our own roads," he said. "I don't think that the city's going to be spending money on staging areas and trails," Eadie said.



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Mayor Sam Katz's Executive Policy Committee has voted to ban off-road vehicles from riding on public land within city limits by Nov. 1, 2012.
But EPC's unanimous endorsement comes as Coun. Brian Mayes (St. Vital) voiced concerns the ban remains an "issue of great concern" for off-road enthusiasts living in the southernmost areas of his ward.
Mayes told EPC Wednesday said while the majority of St. Vital residents within the perimeter are in support of the ban, it's a vastly different story beyond it, where he's heard "mostly opposition."
He asked some solution be found allowing people in the area a way to access legal provincial trails and off-road areas.
"(One) issue will be getting to the Floodway - I would like to see some provision that will continue to allow that," he said.
Mayes' comments come as administrators tackle a concurrent request the city look at developing three staging areas (essentially park and ride zones) and possible trail extensions with legal Snoman Manitoba paths outside the city.
A report is due back on this in September, said Coun. Paula Havixbeck (Charleswood-Tuxedo).
The incoming ban does not apply to private property.
A lower committee had voted to delay implementing the ban until 2014 to allow for talks to take place between the city and snowmobilers to find possible accommodations for them.
But EPC voted to amend the start date to later this year.
A public awareness campaign will be held to notify people of the ban and the possibility of $448.50 fines if caught breaking it.
A majority of council must still vote on the ban at a meeting next week.
Coun. Ross Eadie, who is not on EPC, spoke at the meeting and asked the restrictions take effect immediately.
"I think we should just get it done," he said, citing safety concerns. "Just like driving, we have people that ride snowmobiles and they're dangerous," said Eadie.
He added the concept of building staging areas doesn't make sense as people would still have t
Mayor Sam Katz's Executive Policy Committee has voted to ban off-road vehicles from riding on public land within city limits by Nov. 1, 2012.
But EPC's unanimous endorsement comes as Coun. Brian Mayes (St. Vital) voiced concerns the ban remains an "issue of great concern" for off-road enthusiasts living in the southernmost areas of his ward.
Mayes told EPC Wednesday said while the majority of St. Vital residents within the perimeter are in support of the ban, it's a vastly different story beyond it, where he's heard "mostly opposition."
He asked some solution be found allowing people in the area a way to access legal provincial trails and off-road areas.
"(One) issue will be getting to the Floodway - I would like to see some provision that will continue to allow that," he said.
Mayes' comments come as administrators tackle a concurrent request the city look at developing three staging areas (essentially park and ride zones) and possible trail extensions with legal Snoman Manitoba paths outside the city.
A report is due back on this in September, said Coun. Paula Havixbeck (Charleswood-Tuxedo).
The incoming ban does not apply to private property.
A lower committee had voted to delay implementing the ban until 2014 to allow for talks to take place between the city and snowmobilers to find possible accommodations for them.
But EPC voted to amend the start date to later this year.
A public awareness campaign will be held to notify people of the ban and the possibility of $448.50 fines if caught breaking it.
A majority of council must still vote on the ban at a meeting next week.
Coun. Ross Eadie, who is not on EPC, spoke at the meeting and asked the restrictions take effect immediately.
"I think we should just get it done," he said, citing safety concerns. "Just like driving, we have people that ride snowmobiles and they're dangerous," said Eadie.
He added the concept of building staging areas doesn't make sense as people would still have to put their machines on trailers to get there. "If you have to trailer it to get to a staging area, then trailer it outside the city," Eadie said.
He also took issue with the thought of spending money to accommodate city-dwelling off-roaders.
"I note that this city we can't even fix our own roads," he said. "I don't think that the city's going to be spending money on staging areas and trails," Eadie said.

o put their machines on trailers to get there. "If you have to trailer it to get to a staging area, then trailer it outside the city," Eadie said.
He also took issue with the thought of spending money to accommodate city-dwelling off-roaders.
"I note that this city we can't even fix our own roads," he said. "I don't think that the city's going to be spending money on staging areas and trails," Eadie said.



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That would be nice to see. But it wouldn't really cost them anything to have staging areas. Ask some business owner if people can use their parking lot.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Police spent almost $90,000 on new sleds so now they will be enforcing this with aide of the new helicopter and issuing tickets. I think they will be purchasing side by side ATV/UTV as well because a whole lot more of those in numbers and duration months to issue tickets
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