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Old 02-06-2011, 11:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Just a question. I checked my Chaincase dipstick for the 1st time today (oops). I got the sled back in 2007 and have put 1300 miles on it. It now has just under 3000miles on it.

Anyways it was at the lower mark of the safe level. My friend has some SCL in his garage and I borrowed some (as today is Sunday, and the dealer was closed).

It definitely seems to pour easier than what I would have thought an 80W oil would have poured. Surprising little 'smell' compared to other transmission type fluids that I have experience with. (non snowmobile maintenance)

What's your take on the viscosity of it?

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You know, that is a good question.

The reason for the lack of smell, would be the lack of sulfur, an additive for ep (extreme pressure) compatibility. Earlier, I mentioned the ATF lacked ep additives (which it does), but a chain case really doesn't need them. I should have simply said that ATF doesn't have the
high temp protection.

As for your question on viscosity, as of right now I can't offer a good explanation. Simply going by their listed cold flow numbers, they should be compatible. Keep in mind that two oils with the same "w" or "XX" (the second number) won't necessarily be the same at all temps. They are standardized at a given temp for their "w" rating, and often between two lubes, one will be thicker until the standard temp. Using an engine oil as an example, Castrol's European Syntec 0w-30 is typically thicker than most 5w-30's until a very low temp, where it will then surpass the typical 5w and offer better pumpabillity and flow. What I'm getting at is that depending on the additives and other chemicals, an oil may act differently than another supposedly similar oil until you place them in an extreme.
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:21 AM   #22 (permalink)
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When I pulled the dipstick out of to check the Lube, the magnet on the end of it had a lot of fine metal shavings on it. Is this normal?

2nd, I assuming that the metal shavings are giving the lube a dark grey colour. Is this normal? or a sign of poor maintenance?

I just topped up the lube, but looks like I should probably change it. I can follow the basic schematic from [ridin again?]'s post and drain it. I wonder of there is a slurry of old lube/metal shavings at the bottom of the chaincase.

I have a 2004 Polaris 550 Fan with 3000 miles on it. I do not know when the chaincase lube was last serviced. I also can't seem to find my owner's manual....

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petee, in your case , I'd pull the pipe + chaincase cover, to inspect and clean it out.

As for using "any ol' lube" in the chaincase, thats what the local dealers did here for years, regular semi-synthetic 10W-40 engine oil.
No idea what they're using now though.

Not sure if it was related, but a couple years ago, on a longer outback expedition, 4 out of 5 Bearcat 660 turbo's had chaincase failure leaving them stranded... curious what they were using for lube...
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Yeah, just whatever you do, for the love of god, don`t just throw anything in there..no dice on tranny fluid either...use a quality name brand full synthetic oil..either what the OEM book calls for, or.....mobile 1 full synthetic GL-5 LS...

sorry guys, being he mentioned "2004".. I just can`t resist...I`ve been using Full synthetic mobile 1 GL-5 LS in one of my sleds since 2004 (the year i got it)..it`s NOT a small CC machine, and most defiantly gets a work out..anyway, i have yet to see even a hint of a metal shaving...I do change it atleast every other year..but still have never found even a hint of a metal shaving..
God himself could`nt talk me into running anything else...
now let me knock on wood!!!!..LOL
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i always pull the cover off the chain case and clean it good with some break clean, but watch for the cover gasket, break clean might dry it out some.
And put in polaris chain case oil in, much better than the amsoil brand i've used
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:48 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 02-09-2011, 08:21 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Took off the exhaust last night on my 550F and took off the crankcase cover. It looked surprisingly clean. Man the drain bolt was was on surprisingly tight.

A couple of the exhaust springs were a bugger to get off. with my coat hanger wire thingy

THere was a lot of slack on the non tensioner side of the chain, and I probably turned the adjuster at least 2 full turns to take it out.

Polaris SCL is now tinted blue it seems. I will check the level tonight before I head out.

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Took off the exhaust last night on my 550F and took off the crankcase cover. It looked surprisingly clean. Man the drain bolt was was on surprisingly tight.

A couple of the exhaust springs were a bugger to get off. with my coat hanger wire thingy

THere was a lot of slack on the non tensioner side of the chain, and I probably turned the adjuster at least 2 full turns to take it out.

Polaris SCL is now tinted blue it seems. I will check the level tonight before I head out.

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Blue? gotta get me a new bottle as last year was it. Thats all i've used or ac hyvo chaincase oil. No issues with either.
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you need Polaris HYVO lube on your polaris HYVO chain
should polaris "HYVO" lube be used in chevy car/truck engine also???

http://www.morsetec.com/HP_eng.pdf

or how about motorcycle engines?? (who`s tranny shares the same oil as the motor)
http://www.ehow.com/list_7638126_typ...le-chains.html

not trying to be a smart azz here, but I think often "chaincase" oil is over rated..
the type of chains in modern sleds, has been around a LONG time..hell, I have a couple vintage sleds that have them in them...
their not some new cutting edge technoligy...their just a fancy chains basically, that needs lubed...
long before the dealers started labeling thier own bottle, they simply recomended either motor oil, or regular 80/90 gear lube for example..these days their are several options including synthetic oils...so as long as someone atleast uses a quality name/brand oil, there should`nt be any problems..
but to think that one MUST use the polaris brand oil for a chan that is used in MANY applications and been around ALOT longer then the polaris brand oil has, just gets me..

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i did a little asking around and a little research before i stoped getting ripped off at the stealership several years ago, i ended up the auto parts store buying mobil one gear oil. that was several years and a dozen sleds ago, have used it in everything from a 488 fan to my xcr1100, still using it today, never a problem. now granted iam a little fussy with my toys and its not just a money thing, its just that you know polaris does not make there own gear oil nor did they invent the stuff, that being said there just has to be other lubes that do the same thing , such as mobil one ,for less money because polaris is not making there 800% profit on it by putting there name on the bottle.
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