ultra sp VS firecat F7 - HCS Snowmobile Forums

Polaris General Discussion This is a brand-specific forum. Posts on this forum are assumed to be questions aimed at similar model owners, and are not looking for comments of a sarcastic or "bashing" nature. This is a 100% NO BASH ZONE. Please be aware that if you violate this policy you are in danger of losing your posting privileges on this website.The calling out or posting of another members personal information IE phone number or address is prohibited. Sharing of private messages from site staff is against site rules and will be subject to banning from site temporarily or permanently.

Sponsored By: Reevu Rear-Vision Helmets & Altimate Boots

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-22-2004, 06:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 79
Unhappy

I have an 96 Polaris Ultra SP tripple with aaen pipes, and its clutched, And my buddy just got a 03 Firecat F7 stock with the sno pro package, who would win?
I am sure that he should take me out of the hole and up to a certain speed but I would think that after a while that the ultra should catch up and pass on the higher end. If you look at the HP graphs from an stock F7 to an modded ultra the F7 has a little more horse (10) at 7000RPMs but then at 7750 the ultra has about 10 more horses and it continually pulls more than the f7. At 8000 RPMs the ultra has about 12 more horse and at 8250 it has almost 20 more, then after that the f7 drops off and the ultra keeps going till 8650 RPMS. Realistically the F7 should win because of everything I read and that it is about 40 lbs lighter but if you look at the HP graph I think the ultra should keep pretty close. Let me know what you all think.
johnsc2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-22-2004, 07:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
cody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 712
Current Sled(s): POLARIS
Previous Sled(s): POLARIS
Location: dbn hgts
Favorite Riding Area: MICH
10-11 Mileage: 800
Age: 46
Riding Since: 7
Default

My dad hade one in 96 That thing was fast. The sled pulled hard all the way to 114 Cause I did it. I think you will have fun with him!!!!!!! p.s it was bone stock
cody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2004, 08:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,655
Current Sled(s): '10 SP5 / '99 SP440
Previous Sled(s): 9 prev Cats
Location: Spookville, Mi
Age: 47
Riding Since: 1966
Default

Legitimately, a piped and clutched 680 will be very lucky to see beyond 112-114 mph with a slight tailwind under ideal conditions and hook up. several people with so called "stock ultra's that were claiming 115 mph stock on a frozen lake were appalled to see an average of 94-99 mph on stalker equiptment along with a friend varifying the "peak"reading on the gun as long as the sled was only 2-3 degrees from perfect alignment, and not in the "COZINE ANGLE OF ERROR",(a system that calculates how many mph an object is losing on gun due to not approaching the gun directly). most piped sleds of 700 cc and smaller that have pipes usually wind up running 1 tooth smaller top sprocket for better low end acceleration due to lack of torque w/higher reving pipes ,therefore actually helping negate such higher mph claims even with higher rpm's. People dispute my readings a lot until they actually see me radar a couple more sleds then actually race these sleds to see if their imaginary awesome top speed is faster than my gun says. Only then do they realize the stalker system does not lie, and that is my main source for actual speeds I claim to have measured. :cn: :div20: P.S. A friend has a 96 spx ultra that stock rpm's are8500-8600 , and his with stock gearing went 91 mph without studs, , later porting (PSI),pipes(PSI), 2 teeth smaller on top and cut clutch for full 10% overdrive only went 106 without studs / 107 with them @ 9000 rpm's.
C-notesnopro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2004, 08:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
cody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 712
Current Sled(s): POLARIS
Previous Sled(s): POLARIS
Location: dbn hgts
Favorite Riding Area: MICH
10-11 Mileage: 800
Age: 46
Riding Since: 7
Default

The speedo said that but in real time its of course slower just reporting the facts what ever that comes out to is whatever!!!
cody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2004, 09:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
GF7PE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 7,423
Previous Sled(s): 2003 Green F7 Patriot Edition
Location: Cape Cod, MA
Favorite Riding Area: Rangeley, ME
Age: 35
Riding Since: 1997
Default

From personal experience, the cat should win. but if it isnt clutched right for him and the suspension isnt dialed in, I guess anything is possible
__________________
GF7PE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2004, 07:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 670
Default

The thing I remember on those old piped Ultra's was they burned down on a regular basis.
sixpac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2004, 08:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
RED800's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,234
Location: camden ny
Default

sorry buddy, but i had an ultra,i think the cat will win,but if u beat him rub it in!!!!
__________________
IF U WANNA RUN WITH THE BIG DOGS U BETTER LEARN TO PISS IN TALL GRASS!!!
RED800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2004, 02:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
97storm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 144
Current Sled(s): 92 Indy 500; 90 Indy 400; 90 Indy Sport
Previous Sled(s): 02 Classic touring with an XCR800 mill
Location: west of sudbury
13-14 Mileage: 120
12-13 Mileage: 60
11-12 Mileage: 50
10-11 Mileage: 680
Age: 44
Riding Since: 1987
Default

Amen to that C-NOTEPLUSf503! I love these 100mph indy 500s and such as indicated by the 'dream-o-meter'. My old storm would bury past 120mph on the speedo but would run 110 in real life.
__________________
FROM THE BOTTLE TO THE THROTTLE

02 Classic touring with an XCR800 mill
99 XCR800 (better than the storm... ) became a doner sled
98 XLT Touring (Painfully slow, but very reliable)
97 StormSE (past.. 54miles to 10.8 gallons of gas was the worst it got)
97 XCR600 triple/triple (past.. 66miles to 10.8 gallons of gas was the worst it got)
94 Indy 440 (past... should never have sold it)
89 XLT classic (past)
89 XtraLiteTrailDeluxe (past)
89 Trail Deluxe (past.. thank god)
85 Indy600 (past)
78 TX with 650mill (watercross) (past)
97storm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2004, 11:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,883
Default

Its all about gearing and the efficiency when ur shooting for top end.
my cat eats dogs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2004, 10:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
white lightning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 328
Default

Good running Ultras against a good running F7s - who would win? My $5 bet would be the F7s would win in short drags. Ultras should be able to get by the F7s in long lake racing. Thats my 2 cents - WL.
__________________
White Lightning Racing
white lightning is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:09 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0