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Old 02-08-2006, 10:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Already on my second full set of idlers on the bottom of the track. Yes, the track is picked, I have put my finger on each one of the picks and they are all down with nothing sticking up.

The idlers seem to seperate at the middle of the rubber and then chunk off.

And no, nothing worse than usual for low snow, rough conditions.
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Old 02-08-2006, 10:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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regardless of whether the studs are below the surface or not, they will still contribute to this condition. The cause of this happening is riding low snow with snirt and studs. There really is nothing to be done about it--just the nature of the beast. I got 2 seasons (4100mi) out of mine and then changed them all. Hope this helps.

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Old 02-08-2006, 10:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Its typical for firecats. around 2000 miles i had to replace 3 of them. One of the ones i didn't replace is now coming apart. A friend of mine has had to replace all of his and about 500 miles later i was behind him and watched one he had already replaced fly out as we were riding down the trail. The sight of a flying idler wheel made me laugh pretty hard. I know 3 other guys with firecats and all of us have to replace at least a couple per year. bad design i guess? :share_doobie:
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Old 02-08-2006, 10:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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From my experience, studs never affected the situation, I had some that came apart during asphalt season. I believe it comes down to design (very thin), with plastic hub transfering heat to the rubber faster, manufacturing quality, elastomer (durometer) of the material. It seems to me as these idlers heat up it actually causes the rubber to change state becoming brittle and therefore chunking out, but it does also seem batch related as well. just my .02
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Old 02-08-2006, 11:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I've run studded tracks for years and never had wheels fall apart like this F7. i honestly think studs have little to do with it, sure they will cut the life down some but these wheels are jut plain garbage IMO. last year EVERY wheel was chunked, i had to replaced them ALL and after 300 miles this season i have another one already coming apart. if we ever get any real snow and i get to ride my typical 1000 miles a year i bet at least 3 more wheels will be junk by season end. on my last sled i dont think i replaced a single wheel in 3000 miles except for replacing the bearings in them.

any wheels that blow apart now on my F7 wont be replaced with the factory wheels again, i will find something else to use instead....
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After replacing my wheels twice I changed mine over to the old ZR style wheels. 2500 miles and no problems.

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mine just fly off. 3 of them now in 3500 miles.
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Originally posted by bill@Feb 8 2006, 09:04 PM
After replacing my wheels twice I changed mine over to the old ZR style wheels.* 2500 miles and no problems.


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As the F-cat has a different Id and Od bearing, I was curious if you changed the
mount also, or modified the F-Cat mount?
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Mine look pretty darn good with 1500 miles on them, did they change anything for the 06's I wonder.?.
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Mine look pretty darn good with 1500 miles on them, did they change anything for the 06's I wonder.?.
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